Curse

TheStonedOne · Jul 28, 2005, 08:58 AM // 08:58

Alot of players prolly already left to U.S servers.
And the longer the lag stays the more wil go .
Thus most likely unbalancing who holds the favor even more.
And no i havent left yet , but most likely wil in a week orzo....

Ashley Twig · Jul 28, 2005, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Well, this "leaving the server" somehow reminds me of me standing in line in a wall-mart. 10 people in front of me. A new cash-register opens, 8 people in front of me change to the new line. I'm in 3rd position. Why should I change too?

So basically, if the lag that's been experienced is due to load-balancing problems: Go ahead, leave. The less users there are on the european server, the less load-balancing problems we get.

My idea about lag is, that too many people start their own instance, but then don't do the quest/mission, but just hang around in their instance. Instance-Overload.

RTSFirebat · Jul 28, 2005, 09:28 AM // 09:28

The way I see if World at War is a unbalanced design, I play on the US servers for the better number of English speaking people.

momo2oo2 · Jul 28, 2005, 09:38 AM // 09:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakron

Perhaps I am a bit anoyed to hell with this little comment as well, I know its from another forum (and quite frankly one I will not be visiting again) but I am only human and I am tired of this whole situation and bored to hell with the game.

Last night I was doing some PvP in the team arenas. I played almost 5 times in the Ring of Fire arena. The 6th or so, the game downloaded *something* about 65k.

Not that I'm saying they updated without saying, but at least it was strange... (for the ones who didn't read the linked note, there Gaile says Anet doesnt make any update apart from the official ones).

Of course I'm not saying that Gaile lies, please do not drive this thread to more flaming than it is, but would like to know what explanation has that I got a download and decompress after battling in an arena almost 5 times without logging out...

And for the WaW unbalance problem, another way of getting the favor will be welcome and "easy" to implement. Something that has nothing to do with server population like more % of something that encourages PvE gaming: most ascended char per hour by successfully beating the doppleganger with bonus, or something like that.

BrokenSymmetry · Jul 28, 2005, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by momo2oo2

Last night I was doing some PvP in the team arenas. I played almost 5 times in the Ring of Fire arena. The 6th or so, the game downloaded *something* about 65k.

Not that I'm saying they updated without saying, but at least it was strange... (for the ones who didn't read the linked note, there Gaile says Anet doesnt make any update apart from the official ones).

Guild Wars downloads information incrementally on a fine-grained level. So it happens that you may download data from an update a month ago only now, when you need it for the first time. In PvP it may even be the armor designs of your oppenents, in PvE the data for a boss that only spawns now and then, etc. All these things are only downloaded when you need them in the game, not immediately after a update.

Makkert · Jul 28, 2005, 10:12 AM // 10:12

Over a month ago, i left Europe servers for US servers. partly for UW, partly because the guild i joined was active there. My overall game experience has improved. mostly because there are more people online.
i can buy/sell things faster. i can access the uw/fow regurlar.
and the lag isn't bad. i'm a happy camper at US.

Shamblemonkee · Jul 28, 2005, 10:22 AM // 10:22

What play hours do you keep? I'd consider moving to the U.S servers if the latency was ok (altho until the euro lag is fixed i can't see how it would be worse

) and they were busy during the hours of 18:00-00:00 GMT.

momo2oo2 · Jul 28, 2005, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenSymmetry

Guild Wars downloads information incrementally on a fine-grained level. So it happens that you may download data from an update a month ago only now, when you need it for the first time. In PvP it may even be the armor designs of your oppenents, in PvE the data for a boss that only spawns now and then, etc. All these things are only downloaded when you need them in the game, not immediately after a update.

Thanks, that's the best explanation possible, and sure you are correct. Closed.

alchohol · Jul 28, 2005, 11:03 AM // 11:03

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Originally Posted by Ashley Twig

So basically, if the lag that's been experienced is due to load-balancing problems: Go ahead, leave. The less users there are on the european server, the less load-balancing problems we get.

I don't think the "matrix effect" is due to overload. Perhaps you would get the type of lag all online games are plagued with on an overloaded server, but this is different. All online games I have played have suffered lag at some point and I know what it looks like, but this "matrix effect" is a new type of animal I've not seen before.

I am based in the UK and play at all hours of the day or night. This freezing on the spot can happen at any time. I have experienced it when the servers are empty and most of Europe is tucked up in bed.

You freeze from 5-30 or more seconds which can happen frequently with short spaces of time in between. You can still turn your character on the spot and see your life draining away if you're under attack. You can hear the sounds of battle and the timer still ticks away. The skills you hit just as the freeze happens keep flashing away in the bar. At the end of the freeze you may find yourself or your target dead.

Alex Weekes · Jul 28, 2005, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Hi all. The European lag is not an issue that will be solved by a patch. It's not being caused by a problem with the game (witness the fact that America is not experiencing the problem). Rest assured that we are all working very hard to try to find out what is causing this issue and as soon as it is tracked down, it will be fixed.

It's frustrating, I know. I play on Europe. I've seen and experienced the lag myself. NCsoft Europe, ArenaNet and the server provider are all working together to try to track this down.

It's very disheartening to see some people making posts such as several that I've seen in this thread claiming that we are ignoring the issue, or not officially recognising the issue or any other of dozens of uninformed claims about our supposed lack of work in addressing the issue. Come on, guys: Gaile and I have both been responding directly to your posts about the issue here. The problem emerged and I personally posted responses to concerned threads (both here and on other forums) as soon as it became clear it was a wide spread, persistent issue (within a couple of days) and not just users on a single ISP. Since then Gaile and myself have taken efforts to keep the community as informed as possible, with the letter to all fansites.

The simple fact is: This is a priority for us right now. I check back with our support team daily. I check the threads here daily. We're working hard to solve this.

PieXags · Jul 28, 2005, 11:30 AM // 11:30

I think the devs need to do what I do when I read a senseless post about how awesome I'm (apparently to them) not. I just laugh a little bit at the horrible grammar, stand up for a minute, stretch my legs, get some food and drink. Sit back down, laugh for a minute. Give the monitor (the post) the finger, and continue going through all the other threads telling me how great I am. And then I'd, you know, get back to work and what not.

I mean, c'mon though, you've got to expect some people to complain about how you *haven't* said *anything* about the lag issues, I mean afterall, they didn't recieve a personal PM about it did they?

God people are so...what's the word...*wacky*...I guess...will work.

Ashley Twig · Jul 28, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Weekes

It's frustrating, I know. I play on Europe. I've seen and experienced the lag myself.

So what's your advise?
Should we switch to american servers to avoid the lag?
Will the american server be able to handle the additional load, if we all were to switch?
Should we stay in europe, grind our teeth and soldier on?

Fantus · Jul 28, 2005, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheStonedOne

Alot of players prolly already left to U.S servers.
And the longer the lag stays the more wil go .
Thus most likely unbalancing who holds the favor even more.

How can it get any more unbalanced? Can the number of favor minutes EU has actually go below zero?

Tiela · Jul 28, 2005, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Hi all,

I just want to address a message to Alex Weekes and Gaile Gray, saying that despite the fact that the lag problem is really annoying, there's lots of peolple here who trust in your work, lots of peolple knowing that you will do the best to resolve the problem, and lots of people staying on the european server...

Just try to make as fast as possible

Gauthier,
Belgium

Diomedes · Jul 28, 2005, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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How can it get any more unbalanced? Can the number of favor minutes EU has actually go below zero?

I'm sure that you're frustrated, but believe it or not EU does get favor. Often when I'm heading to UW. For example last night... (and that's not an isolated even). The thing is, the EU is 6-8+ hours ahead of me (central time zone US). So for some reason you guys manage to get favor at 1am-4am your time.

-Diomedes

dbgtboy · Jul 28, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

Sure, 16 patches may seem like a lot to the untrained eye... but any who has played ANY other game, online or otherwise would realize that in 3 months, an average of 4.5 patches per month is chump change... why, the worst of dev teams update an average 5 times per week!

are you being serious? ive played games with about 1 patch a month if i we were lucky, this is a free game, its nice enough of anet to even put patches and add new stuff, i honestly dont care if they never even did any patches because all i payed was $50.

Diomedes · Jul 28, 2005, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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are you being serious? ive played games with about 1 patch a month if i we were lucky, this is a free game, its nice enough of anet to even put patches and add new stuff, i honestly dont care if they never even did any patches because all i payed was $50.

I'm guessing that it's sarcasm, but I've got all all my images turned off so I can't see if there's some grins in there somewhere.

-Diomedes

P.S. I love NCSoft support. I can't believe how quickly they respond to all of my e-mails

Loviatar · Jul 28, 2005, 03:01 PM // 15:01

[QUOTE=Drakron]I happen to use the /bug command and type a problem but heck I doubt anyone reads then so I am not going to even bother anymore.

QUOTE]

YOU ARE RIGHT

NOBODY READS THEM BECAUSE OF THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT THAT /BUG WAS BEING STOPPED AND GIVING DETAILS OF HOW TO SEND IN A BUG REPORT THE NEW WAY

primal98 · Jul 28, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Really angry over no updates o.O Perhaps from now on they should just release updates like this:

Update:
Added an extra comma.

This way no one would complain :P

~prime

Mormegil · Jul 28, 2005, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Threads like this are an incredible waste of space and bandwith.

And they come from the same people. What a surprise.